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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jan 15, 2013 6:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

I finally got the Fillmore West torrent links that JerL so kindly posted ... they sound AMAZING. If anyone's curious, it took four days. (What would be a usual speed for four shows?)

Now I'm trying to figure out how to convert the flac files to load onto iTunes so they can be in my iPod. I found these instructions, but they're 6-7 years old and seem really complicated.

http://www.simplehelp.net/2006/08/14/how-to-convert-flac-files-to-mp3-using-windows/

Does anyone have easier instructions, or is that still the way to do it?

Also, that doesn't, like, permanently change the flac files, does it? Would they still be in my DL area as flac? I probably couldn't tell a difference, but the sound right now is incredible, and I'd just as soon have it still in the current form on my computer somewhere.



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Poster: clashcity Date: Jan 16, 2013 9:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

Like everyone else is saying - Traders Little Helper (assuming Windows OS)

First install and open up TLH

Then you'll want to open the folder where your FLAC files are then select them all.

Next you want drag and drop them into the TLH window.

A window will pop-up with the action to perform. In this case you want to select Convert Encoding Format.

In the TLH window you'll see converting options on the left. Select MP3 as your Target Format, Encoding mode CBR, and the Bitrate is up to you. Keep in mind the lower the bitrate the lower the quality and smaller the file size. I'd stick with 256 or 320.

Leave your Output location the Same Directory.

Then click the Convert button.

This will create MP3 files for each of your FLAC files.

Once complete you'll want to import these into you iTunes Library.

Likely the MP3 files won't have any ID information (Artist, Album, Track#, Title, etc) so you should fill that in as well.

As indicated by others - the FLAC files take up a ton of disk space, so your best bet is to burn them to DVD or better yet get yourself a high capacity external drive to store them on.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jan 16, 2013 8:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

That's really good info -- thanks! I'm trying, but it's confusing. TLH has a cute little toolbox icon on my desktop now but it isn't exactly user friendly. My iTunes doesn't want to import, files keep going off into the ether somewhere (someplace on my computer? I don't know, but they're playing hide and seek and I do not want to play).

I'm not sure I'm doing this right.

This is a project. I can't believe you guys really spend your time doing this ...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 16, 2013 8:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

You literally just "look" at the open window for TLH and it will come to you...I am a complete moron and it took about five minutes...really. It will.

Be sure that when you import things to itunes you don't then move folders around or it literally won't be able to find them which is what it does with large files, like WAV. MP3 are "in" the music folder. This could explain some of the "hide and seek" factor.

But, for now, can you open TLH, then see the sequence for selecting a bunch of FLAC files from a folder on your desktop of the 69 shows? Then telling it to convert them and save them to the same folder? Then you will end up with two files of ea track in that folder, and go from there...asking itunes to import, etc.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jan 16, 2013 8:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

Yeah, I have that for 2/27. show. It's weird -- there are those little cones next to the little music notes. How do I get iTunes to import it when it's lined up boy-girl-boy-girl like that? I've tried a couple things and it isn't listening to me.

I know about not moving it after I import (cuz that has happened to me!), but I can't get it to import in the first place ...

and actually I can't even find it when I'm on iTunes to even try. I can only find the original flac. And I've converted it twice (or tried to) ...

Definitely this is taking more than 5 minutes. I've probably spent at least 5 minutes just pulling my hair out. I think I win in the "moron" dept.



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Poster: Jobygoob Date: Jan 16, 2013 10:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

For Mac OS I use a little program (free) called Maxx to convert from Flac or SHN directly to MP3. You can convert to Wav if you want as well for CD burning.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 16, 2013 6:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

You're getting lots of answers; but, I have to say I envy you--I will never forget the feeling of figuring this out (it's v simple) and suddenly I was burning disks and loading shows like nobody's bizniss...amazing.

You can load WAV files on an ipod, though it takes more space (used to be able to anyhoo).

Use TLHelper to convert FLAC to WAV, and then load the WAVs to itunes and they will convert to MP3 unless you specify otherwise.

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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: Jan 16, 2013 3:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

Hi there WT; hope all is well with you.

There is no need to convert to MP3 via WAV with TLH these days. The newer versions of TLH will convert FLAC to MP3 directly (or "dreckley" as they say down in Cornwall).

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Poster: Tidewater four ten O nine Date: Jan 16, 2013 9:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

Understood, but we (probably) all have our own personal road map.

Mine is as follows:

d/l from 'LLL', 'PB' or whatever.

Convert FLACs to WAV and burn to CD for listening to on the BIG stereo system - you know: the one in the living room with the three speaker pyramid in each corner - woofers at the bottom, mid-range units in the middle (where else?) and tweeters at the top. Always nice to listen to the Dead FULL BLAST on the BIG stereo, when the neighbours go out.

Convert residual WAVS to mp3 at 320kbps for transferring to mp3 player for listening to on the mp3 player (doh!!!!) when taking the dog for a walk and in a darkened room where I'm exiled to when the rest of the family have had enough of my poor jokes (and music).

Back-up the FLACs onto duplicate external hard-drives in the event that the CDs ever need burning again.

Finally, delete everything from the main 'puter so it don't grind to a halt.

Incidentally (dah dah!), the (Phillips) mp3 player will play FLACs and Wavs but there is the space issue so I opt for mp3 at 320kbps.

That said, this is probably as old as yesterday's fish'n'chip wrappings so there's probably something younger, fitter, faster out there waiting to be discovered. But I don't care - if it ain't broke, don't try and fix it!

Apols for the English spellings and best wishes to The Bucket Boys of Newquay, Cornwall, England.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 16, 2013 3:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

Hey there too, JH; yea, fig'd that might be true from what some others said in reply...I have largely given up such techno fun and games these days, but it was something I really enjoyed for a few yrs (lots of family and friends rec'd far too many CDs of DEAD & CREAM shows, I am sure!).

TLH gets my vote for my fav little helper, that's for sure!

Perhaps that MP3 feature is a sign of changing times--folks used to get VERY twitchy about "lossy" formats like that...

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Jan 15, 2013 7:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

Converting with any of these programs should not affect the original files, but you will quickly amass a whole lot of data if you try to keep all of your original FLAC files.

dbpoweramp converts directly from FLAC to mp3 without the lossless wav step in between

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Poster: Jobygoob Date: Jan 16, 2013 11:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

Oh to answer your question about download speeds, there's alot of factors at play...obviously the speed of your particular service is a factor, and just as important is how many seeders are sharing and how fast they're uploading to you. I have cable internet, and over wifi I usually get a maximum download speed of around 2MB per second on well seeded torrents. So four full shows, well seeded, about 2GB of data? About 15 minutes for me.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jan 16, 2013 7:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

15 minutes?!?!?!?!?

Clearly you are on a different planet :-)

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Poster: Tidewater four ten O nine Date: Jan 16, 2013 10:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

Planet Zog ............

Apols for repeating myself/others:

many seeds = very, very quick (remember Cassius Clay? So quick he'd switch off the light and be in bed before it got dark).

few seeds = weeks/months ....... literally.

That's why now I only torrent top 40 songs (OK, I lied).

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Poster: Jobygoob Date: Jan 17, 2013 1:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

Ha ha not at all, you probably only had one or two "seeders" (people with the full shows on their computers and actively connected, uploading to you) and they probably weren't uploading very fast. Many people don't know they can use settings in the torrent program to increase/decrease the speeds at which they upload, or possibly they are uploading many different things at once and they have only a limited amount of bandwidth to go around. If you're curious about how fast your maximum download speed is you can go to speedtest.net and get a baseline download/upload rate for your service

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jan 17, 2013 1:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hey Tidewater, I WIN! (And Jobygoob, I bet this is the reason, actually ...)

Oh that's fun. Haven't done one of those speed tests for a while, and it looks like it's pretty much the same ... SLOWEST IN THE WORLD!

Well, not exactly, but my own test came out that way. The country itself is actually 5th from the bottom, right below Malawi. However, that's only cuz the "average" recorded must be from the super-zippiest and priciest providers, who serve people who are working at, like, the World Bank, and consequently putz away their days doing speed tests, I guess.

My own personal household Ordinary Person Web Provider comes out at .45 mbps, which is below the Congo, which is slowest in the world.

The US average is 15 Mbps. 34th in the world. Thailand is 10 Mbps. (55th, I think.) In contrast to our country average, which is 1.29 Mbps and 174th in the world. Take that, Tidewater, you spoiled beach bum in a fancy developed country.

I win! There is NO ONE SLOWER!

So if I ever get a show without many seeders, it will be next year before it arrives ...

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Poster: Tidewater four ten O nine Date: Jan 17, 2013 12:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hey Tidewater, I WIN! (And Jobygoob, I bet this is the reason, actually ...)

"Spoiled beach bum (in a fancy developed country)":

Yep, that's me and I wear that badge with pride !!!

(Apols for repeating myself) Thailand - where the beer's cheap and the women are cheaper !

Good-natured banter and all that.

Keep on Truckin' !!!!!!!

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Poster: Jobygoob Date: Jan 17, 2013 9:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hey Tidewater, I WIN! (And Jobygoob, I bet this is the reason, actually ...)

Yes that's horrible, and of your pathetic .45 mb (I'm assuming download) you won't ever be using all that capacity for a torrent. Hey, B&P is always an option, and probably faster for you.

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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: Jan 16, 2013 12:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

If you have a Windows PC, then Traders Little Helper is the essential (free) tool for decoding and converting FLAC and Shn files:

http://tlh.easytree.org/

Also, I would hang onto those original FLAC files (burn them onto DVD) as a backup, just in case.

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Poster: Tidewater four ten O nine Date: Jan 16, 2013 6:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

The "Mountains of the Moon" -> "Dark Star, etc., etc.," is up there with the seven wonders of the world - both of them ("MM->DS".

4 days ? worth the wait - nothing worth having comes easy and all that.

Trader's Little Helper (free) is the kiddee - if you've got straight trousers it will give you flares.

And, after all the effort, back them FLACs up onto duplicate external hard-drives, so when you drop your i-pod down the toilet, you don't have to start again from scratch.

Duplicate 'EHDs' ? So, if one crashes and burns, you've still got another copy of your whole collection and can sleep easy at night - I know I do.

Rearguards,

TW 4-10-0-9

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Jan 15, 2013 7:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

There is a great little program called dbpoweramp that will convert almost anything to almost anything else. I'm not an audiophile or a tech guy, but I've been using this for years and been very happy with it.

It used to be completely free; now - they say for legal reasons - they charge something like $40 for a lifetime license. It truly is a one-time charge - just make sure you keep the registration info where you can find it in your e-mail - I'm up to my third or fourth consecutive computer I've installed it on.

Will admins flag my post if I put in a commercial link?

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/codec-central.htm

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Jan 16, 2013 2:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Converting Torrent Files to iTunes

there is a free version still...try here i believe http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm